Showing posts with label Europe Travel. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Europe Travel. Show all posts

Thursday, September 24, 2015

What's In a Name - Part II

 
 
Well Let me beg to differ Monsieur...Life starts with a name Your name - In the western world you are named at birth and in many Asian cultures you have a "naming ceremony" but the child is born with the family name in place.
 
As we move across cultures there is a major disparity on whats a first name, last name, family name, middle name and such. Not only many names across the globe have 4-5 words we do not know what's what! Call it anything Voornaam, Achternaam, Familienaam, Naam, Prenom, Nom or simple First name, Middle Name(s) or Last Name its still confusing. It wonderful each part of the name actually has a name to it...superb and all those who are reading this would relate to a simple 'first' name and 'last' name as what comes first and last.
 
In Polite society we have prefixes like Mr., Dr., Mrs., Miss etc and the same way in French Monsieur or Madame and in Dutch Meneer or Mevrouw. Now I give you a name Dr. Grijs Phillipe. Kindly decipher this for me how do you address him? Dr. Philippe or Dr. Grijs and what is the first and what is the last name...Recently I had my most embarrassing moment in sometime when I got this wrong and the gentleman was offended. Well that's why this blog to help anyone reading...My dear friends welcome to the world of confusion. For me Phillipe sounded like the first name but I kept scratching my head on why it was written second and I got caught anyway.
 
I apologised as he was my own doctor and couldn't afford to insult him. I said across cultures this gets difficult and had to correct myself. End of story there then I did tons of research mighty google and discussed with many neighbours and reached a few key take aways which I'm sharing:
 
- " The study of names is called onomastics, a field which touches on linguistics, history, anthropology, psychology, sociology, philology and much more." Source Wiki...In Human readable language that means names have a big history they were just not made up SO NEVER assume anything about anyone's name. Kindly respect each one! Try to find out their meaning or origins people actually love to talk about these just try it out for small talk soon...
 
- RULE 1: In European and European influenced cultures like the Americas,  Africa and Oceania its more common to write the name in a common format : First name Middle name Last name.
RULE 2: Now there's something called the Eastern Order which reverses this...obviously has to clash with RULE 1 (didn't I say welcome to confusion sometime back) their format : Last Name Middle Name(s) First Name (ouch)!
To avoid confusion about why is first last and last first lets rename these and make an easy format : Family Name Middle Name(s) Given Name how's that...thats readable.  
AND please believe that many countries in Europe actually follow this. Slovekian countries, Greece, part of Germany,  Netherlands!!!
RULE 3: The Far eastern countries China, Japan, Korea and friendly neighbours all follow the European Order of writing names. Infact in Japanese they write vertically and the Family name comes first and their format is : Upper Name Middle Name(s) Given name
 
In simple words that means kindly ask new people what is the family name when they give you a card and don't commit faux pas like I did! I was on phone luckily and heard the tirade...oops yes!
 
- Then guess what some cultures\ countries said we don't care about all these and go by ONE single name called the Mononym wow smart! Well u may use the prefixes or not its upto your association with the person. If you are a friend drop the prefix if its a business acquaintance then greet with a prefix! Easy ain't it?
 
That's name formats...and in my friendly interviews and discussions in the neighbourhood and my Belgian friends I heard many say that in Belgium everyone writes RULE 2 Eastern Order format which is not true. Belgium is a true cosmopolitan city and there are settlers from various cultures generations ago moved from other places and how they write their names hasn't changed. Majority of the French and Dutch Belgians would write as in RULE 1. But the mixed cultures as in father is Greek mom is English get very confused and go by the Eastern Order at times.
 
 
 
One of my neighbours got really excited on this topic and gave me her interesting opinion. She said please understand the history of Europe we have had an interesting dominating neighbour namely United Kingdom seeking to conquer the world from generations ago centuries ago. To defy them some countries in Europe also started following Eastern Order just to spite them. Long ago the world was united and Eastern Asia was not far away we just split as you know from the geography and ofcourse some ideas and traditions are the same. Aren't many Russian and Indian names running parallel even now?
Well hats off to her bold answers she's a Professor of Sociology at Leuven university and teaches Mphil,  Phd students. I'm blessed to be her neighbour as we have such interesting discussions...
 
So finally how do we read Dr. Grijs Philippe? Ofcourse its easy call him Dr. Grijs with respect and if possible fold your hands he loves it! He's a French Belgian with some Greek origins roots four generations ago he told me a few meetings and greetings with respect later...wow and my research worked right? I shall find a minute or two to tell him he led me to new discoveries! But first impressions are really important luckily I goofed on the phone after my first few impressions so I survived.
 
When in quandary always ask! Or read the full name...that's a last option but better than goofing!
 
Have fun and hope this blog helps a few readers! Have to end with my favourite quote of all times!
Well yes we agree and we shall try to get it right too.
 
 
 
 
 You may read Part one too for more information.
(I have used my doctors name with permission told him its getting onto my blog! As ever any opinions expressed here are purely mine and not influenced by any culture and not intended to hurt anyone)
 
 
 
 

Tuesday, August 21, 2012

What's in a Name?

We moved into a new apartment recently and it took a long time for the name tags on the post box and the doorbell to be changed . Finally when we got them they looked like this:
S.Poluri and C.Jakkinapalli
It confused the hell out of me and I started to wonder how things could be so different in India and Europe. Poluri and Jakkinpalli are the last name/family name/surname but our first names just disappeared...and in India our name tags would have been P.Siva Priya or J.Chandrashekar...Are we two different persons in two continents?
And here's the story of the NAME challenge -
On the news the other day they were interviewing someone by the name "Zhimsele Ghamakulu" - my challenges :
1. How do I pronounce that? ( and I was the Accent and Communication Expert in India!!!)
2. Is this person Male or Female? (How do you know if you dont see the video?)
3. What is the first name and what is the last name? (I CANNOT afford to hurt sentiments by going wrong with that!)
It's like stepping on eggshells and trying not to make noise or hurt anyone...Names in Europe are a big mystery and HELLO you cannot TRY to pronounce them in your own language. You have to pronounce a name AS IT IS pronounced in THE language it was CREATED. That's a BLIND RULE!
Ok Let's get a few more examples to totally confuse us:
Some First name and Last name meddlers:
  • Andrew Russel and Russel Peters (excuse us Mr.Peters oops sorry Mr.Russel!)
  • Mark Antony and then you meet Tim Mark (Hi there Mark - who? where's the Mr.? - you have to place a Mr.with the last name didn't you know? )
  • O'Neil Harvey and when I'm just getting my mouth around it I meet Joe O'Neil wow!
Now kindly DO not try to pronounce these:
  • Kemar Roach
  • Hanarz Krzysztof
  • Krzysztof Sadowski (and I thought I found the last name ha ha)
And Please if you here you are going to meet Pascal/e please try to check the spelling in the email. I met people with the name Pascal and Pascale one of the most common names around here and both are pronounced as PAS-KEL!  

After being put through this I guess the quote from Shakespeare "What's in a name" is not true and I'd say Everything is in the NAME and you better get it right!

Sunday, November 15, 2009

Weather Report from Belgium!

Hi! Afternoon Everyone (coz there's nothing good about the afternoon- it is just a plain greeting) and welcome to today's weather report from Brussels, Belgium and I'm Maria Leaeslies! (You may pronounce that at ur own risk.)
- This morning we woke up to the signature Belgian weather and were not surprised that it continues to be DULL, DARK and ofcourse the Chronic Rain never fails to disappoint.
-By noon the DULL weather changed and it became DULLER. Finally there was some change to look forward to and TALK about during the lunch hour.
- By Afternoon the clouds over Brussels moved into Paris so NOW we can see our Hands in front of our face - although trying to VIEW your Feet can still be a Dangerous task and to be avoided.
- The sun is predicted to set by 3.30 (did it RISE?) so kindly carry torchlights when you step out. Althought the streetlights and lamps are on throughout the day sometimes you might need to cough or sneeze and need the torchlight to search for tissues in your purse.
- The night is predicted to be chilly and cold so kindly turn on the heaters from 4pm to start heating the house.
Warnings:
1. The wind is Northerly (blowing from the North Pole maybe) and at 45 to 55km/hr. EVERYONE below 50 kgs weight is requested to carry HEAVY Luggage while walking on the street. AVOID going out if possible but those of you who have to get back home from office kindly hang on to your HEALTHY neighbors for support. CHILDREN are requested to peep out from the safety of their homes and not step out.
2. As there is a constant rain with heavy WINDS there is no point in carrying UMBRELLAS. It is HAZARDOUS and might blow onto oncoming vehicles. Try to wear jackets with hoods and pray that you survive!
Thanks - with that cheery note I shall sign off and meet you in another two hours for more weather updates!
Cheery TIP before I go: Anyone who is feeling depressed contact the Disgustingly Cheerful Soul - SP in Brussels for advice and tips on life!

Sunday, October 25, 2009

Agitate Before Employment!

This is the kind of language that I live amongst now! Just read that and try to guage what the hell it could mean. Out of context it could mean any number of things...agreed! Now imagine reading that on a can.
Direct translations can be pathetic or derogatory at their best! I'm sick and tired of listening to the beautiful English language murdered by various nationalities in Europe. Forget their MTIs - one can live with it what's worse is their direct translations and their sentence structures. Please bear in mind that when you speak with them you BETTER speak in similar sentence structures or they will give you a BLANK DUMB look!
An amazing feature here is that everyone wants to practice their English with me when I'm trying my best to speak in French. Immediately from my accent and pace they pick up that I might know English and switch over to various forms of English! Spare me!
So my interaction in English has reduced to include some of the following interesting phrases:
Agitate before Employment - Shake Well Before Use! Well ya right!
The rain is coming - From where and why the hell I dont know!
I him tell - Oh God!
My boom- boom in the microwave - Really how interesting (she meant something exploded while cooking)
Please give me forty five - What she really means is TAKE THIS CHANGE!
I reservations No! - Ok Sorry did I say something wrong? She meant they are BUSY in the restaurant.
My leg breaking - my head breaking - my hand breaking - my stomach breaking - THis is very common and almost ALL my friends (European) use this word very frequently to mean anything and everything. Most loved word!
Do u have any ID? - U BETTER know what this is or else it can lead to tons of confusion - ID is idea and NOT an ID card. (Ide'e in French = ID in English)
I was walking and a big shower fell on me! Hee hee this is the latest I heard and I'm still reeling!
Ok More updates as and when I remember them! Have fun for now!